Sheryl Underwood tearfully claimed she has been suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) following her heated on-air clash with Sharon Osbourne, as The Talk returned to TV screens after an almost month-long hiatus on Monday.
‘I feel like I’m in PTSD, because it was a trauma, and I feel like I want to get past this,’ Underwood, 57, said while holding back tears, addressing the drama that saw Osbourne, 68, quit the CBS show after speaking up for her friend Piers Morgan.
Osbourne defended Morgan, 56, for saying he didn’t believe Meghan Markle was suicidal during her Oprah Winfrey interview – which lead to a very heated exchange between herself and Underwood.
Morgan tweeted about Underwood’s PTSD admission on Twitter, writing: ‘Oh what a crock of sh*t’ and labelled her a ‘shameless fraud’ in another tweet.
During Monday’s show, Underwood also took part in a trust exercise – giving direct eye contact to her co-hosts – which she described as feeling as though she was in a ‘safe space.’
Talking: Underwood admitted she did receive a text apology from Osbourne, but was unsure about whether she was allowed to reply because of the ongoing CBS investigation. She claimed to her co-hosts that she had PTSD after she and Osbourne’s argument and took part in an exercise giving direct eye contact to her co-hosts which she described as feeling as though she was in a ‘safe space’
Last week, Osbourne shared text messages with DailyMail.com that she had sent to Underwood to apologize for her comments, but did not receive a reply from the stand-up comedian.
Underwood addressed this on the show, confirming that she had received the text messages but felt unsure if she was allowed to reply because it was when CBS was conducting an official investigation into the matter.
CBS had said the show was ‘under internal review’ after the situation, saying the network is ‘committed to a diverse workplace’ which is why Underwood claims she did not respond to Osbourne’s text messages.
‘There was a discussion about Sharon and I communicating together,’ Underwood said. ‘There were text messages sent to me, and the reason I didn’t respond was because they were coming to me while the internal investigation was going.’
Reflecting on the tense back-and-fourth on the show, Underwood said she didn’t want to ‘escalate things’ in the moment.
‘I thought I was having a conversation with a friend, but also I knew I had to be an example,’ Underwood said, adding she ‘didn’t want to be perceived as the angry Black woman.’
‘I wanted to remain calm and remain focused, and it’s difficult to go back to that day because I just feel the trauma,’ she went on, saying she felt ‘trapped’ during exchange.
Talking about her future friendship with Osbourne, she said: ‘People have asked me, ‘Well, if you see Sharon, what would you do?’ If she greeted me warmly and sincerely, I would give her back the same, because we’ve been on this show for 10 years.’
Welteroth, 34, also referenced a claim by Osbourne that CBS had ‘set up’ the conversation, which left her ‘blindsided’ – ‘That is absolutely categorically false. And I think it’s really important that people hear that,’ Welteroth said.
Addressing the issue: Underwood, 57, spoke to Donald E. Grant, an expert on diversity, equity, inclusion and justice, to talk about the aftermath of her argument with Sharon Osbourne
Talking it out: Underwood was joined by remaining co-hosts Carrie Ann Inaba, Amanda Kloots and former Teen Vogue editor Elaine Welteroth
The Talk was joined by Donald E. Grant, an expert on diversity, equity, inclusion and justice, and Anita Phillips, a trauma therapist and life coach.
Phillips made the hosts do an exercise where they looked at each other directly in the eyes, which Underwood described as being ‘in a safe space’ as she sat across from co-host Kloots.
Defending Sharon: Piers Morgan took to Twitter on Monday to stick up for Osbourne, and labelled Underwood a ‘shameless fraud’
On The Talk, Osbourne defended Morgan in an on-air debate with co-host Sheryl Underwood, which turned heated as Osbourne demanded ‘educate me’ on how Morgan is racist
Sharon Osbourne’s text messages to Sheryl Underwood
In the first message dated 7.28pm on March 12 – two days after the on-air row – Sharon Osbourne wrote: ‘Sheryl, My heart is heavy and I’m deeply saddened by the events that transpired on Wednesday.
‘I don’t want to lose my true friend over this. Im sorry for telling you to f**k off during break, I’m sorry for accusing you of fake crying while we were live on air and I’m sorry for losing my temper with you.
‘I felt shocked, scared and saddened by what felt like was a blind sided attack. You know me. You know how I’ve always had your back. We’ve outlasted everyone on this show and that’s because we’ve always been a team and had each other’s backs.
‘I consider you a genuine friend. If you want to talk on the phone over the weekend I’m here. Once again from the bottom of my heart I’m sorry.
‘Is there anything You need from me or that I can do to help you heal? Love and respect always – Sharon.’
That message went unanswered for three days before Osbourne sent another, dated 1.45pm on March 15.
‘Hi Sheryl. I know you’re taking space and I don’t want to disrespect that. I’m just reaching out because I want you [to] know I’m thinking about you. If you are willing, can we talk before Wednesday? Big kiss,’ she wrote.
Another three days passed before Osbourne wrote on at 4.32pm on March 18: ‘Sheryl I am thinking about you. Hope you are well. Sending my love.’
Osbourne’s first message to Underwood dated 7.28pm on March 12 is shown above
Osbourne later sent two more messages to Underwood that went unanswered
Before the panel got to their discussion about the incident – which included remaining co-hosts Carrie Ann Inaba, Amanda Kloots and former Teen Vogue editor Elaine Welteroth – Underwood gave a special introduction to camera.
‘As you may know, during our break, Sharon decided to leave The Talk. We need to process the events of that day and what happened since, so we can get to the healing,’ Underwood stated at the beginning of Monday’s show.
‘Over the next hour, we will honestly discuss what occurred and explore some of our feelings. And we’ll also show you how anyone can become more comfortable discussing important issues and having difficult conversations. By the end of the hour, we want everyone to feel empowered and ready to move forward. So, let’s start talking.’
Despite admitting that she did see texts from Osbourne, last week the stand-up comedian said she had not heard from her, in a three-part series on her podcast titled ‘Sharon Walks Away’ last week, where she claimed Osbourne never apologized to her for the argument.
Osbourne debunked that claim by releasing screenshots of the lengthy text messages she sent to Underwood asking to patch things up.
‘I not only sent these messages to Sheryl but I apologized to her in person in her dressing room,’ Osbourne told DailyMail.com.
‘Why are you saying I never apologized Sheryl? What are you trying to do to me?
‘Why are you trying to destroy my reputation? Just be honest. Tell me.’
In the first message dated 7.28pm on March 12 – two days after the on-air row – Osbourne wrote: ‘Sheryl, My heart is heavy and I’m deeply saddened by the events that transpired on Wednesday.
‘I don’t want to lose my true friend over this. Im sorry for telling you to f**k off during break, I’m sorry for accusing you of fake crying while we were live on air and I’m sorry for losing my temper with you.
‘I felt shocked, scared and saddened by what felt like was a blind sided attack. You know me. You know how I’ve always had your back. We’ve outlasted everyone on this show and that’s because we’ve always been a team and had each other’s backs.
‘I consider you a genuine friend. If you want to talk on the phone over the weekend I’m here. Once again from the bottom of my heart I’m sorry.
‘Is there anything You need from me or that I can do to help you heal? Love and respect always – Sharon.’
That message went unanswered for three days before Osbourne sent another, dated 1.45pm on March 15.
‘Hi Sheryl. I know you’re taking space and I don’t want to disrespect that. I’m just reaching out because I want you [to] know I’m thinking about you. If you are willing, can we talk before Wednesday? Big kiss,’ she wrote.
Another three days passed before Osbourne wrote on at 4.32pm on March 18: ‘Sheryl I am thinking about you. Hope you are well. Sending my love.’
On her podcast, Underwood claimed that she and Osbourne had not spoken since they faced off on set on March 10.
Asked if Osbourne had reached out to apologize, Underwood said: ‘No’ and shared her phone history to corroborate that claim.
The controversy began on March 10 when Osbourne delivered a vociferous defense of her friend Morgan, who quit Good Morning Britain after furious criticism of his staunch insistence that he did not believe Markle’s explosive claims about experiencing racism in the Royal family in her interview with Oprah Winfrey three days earlier.
Underwood, who is black, pushed back hard and accused Osbourne of downplaying Morgan’s comments.
‘Educate me, tell me when you have heard him say racist things,’ Osbourne said.
‘I very much feel like I’m about to be put in the electric chair because I have a friend, who many people think is a racist, so that makes me a racist?’
Osbourne later issued an apology for her ‘panicked’ defense of Morgan and The Talk was placed on hiatus as an internal investigation was launched.
Allegations soon emerged that Osbourne made racist remarks about co-hosts behind the scenes at The Talk – claims which she has staunchly denied.
On March 26 CBS announced Osbourne would be leaving her post on the show after more than a decade.
‘Sharon Osbourne has decided to leave The Talk,’ CBS said in a statement confirming her departure. ‘The events of the March 10 broadcast were upsetting to everyone involved, including the audience watching at home.’
The show must go on: The Talk RETURNS from month-long hiatus after Sharon Osbourne’s controversial exit… as Sheryl Underwood says panel look forward to ‘healing’
Osbourne (far right) and Underwood (second from left) got into a heated exchange over Osbourne’s support for her friend Piers Morgan (third from left), who has come under fire for comments he made about Meghan Markle and Prince Harry. Morgan posted this photo in February 2020 of the show’s former panel from last year. From left to right: Carrie Ann Inaba, Underwood, Morgan, Marie Osmond, and Osbourne
‘As part of our review, we concluded that Sharon’s behavior toward her co-hosts during the March 10 episode did not align with our values for a respectful workplace,’ the statement continued.
‘We also did not find any evidence that CBS executives orchestrated the discussion or blindsided any of the hosts,’ CBS said, responding to allegations from Osbourne’s camp that she was ‘set up to fail’ by being spurred into the debate by producers.
‘At the same time, we acknowledge the network and studio teams, as well as the showrunners, are accountable for what happened during that broadcast as it was clear the co-hosts were not properly prepared by the staff for a complex and sensitive discussion involving race,’ the statement added.
‘During this week’s hiatus, we are coordinating workshops, listening sessions and training about equity, inclusion and cultural awareness for the hosts, producers and crew. Going forward, we are identifying plans to enhance the producing staff and producing procedures to better serve the hosts, the production and, ultimately, our viewers,’ CBS said.
Osbourne had reportedly cited clauses in her contract to demand millions in severance if she were forced to quit, but it was not immediately clear whether CBS had agreed to pay out.
Underwood and Osbourne are pictured at the 41st Annual Daytime Emmy Awards in 2014
